From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,85034d1ac78a66eb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-08 12:51:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 From: "Dann Corbit" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Operating System Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:31:25 -0800 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Message-ID: References: <3c77b476.322111671@news.cis.dfn.de> <3C88E0D1.89161C16@despammed.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-151.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20955 Date: 2002-03-08T12:31:25-08:00 List-Id: "Wes Groleau" wrote in message news:3C88E0D1.89161C16@despammed.com... > > A pessimist's viewpoint: > > To make an operating system successful, you need > at least one of > > - sufficient quantity of useful applications > > - sufficient geek appeal to attract developers. > > - sufficent robustness/power/features to overcome > the lack of either of the others. > > To get people to write applications that run on it, > it must have enough users to make people want to > write apps for it. So you have a chicken/egg problem > for the first point. > > For the second, you have the prevailing distaste for > Ada against you ("Us" if you will). > > On the robustness/power/features point, obviously > Ada has a significant advantage over C/C++/Java. > > BUT, when you multiply the language potential > by the number of developers, Linux still comes > out ahead. In spite of its implementation language, > Linux is quite robust, and it has hundreds of > developers for every AdaOS developer to keep it > that way. Shift the target to features, and > Microsoft will always have you beat there. > They will always sacrifice security/robustness > to beat any competition in features. And their > "if you can't beat 'em, steal 'em" technique > also applies. > > So on the third point, you have say a hundred > developers and a language that scores ten on > some arbitrary rating scale vs. several thousand > developers and a language that scores one or two. > > Do the math and Ada loses. Unfortunately. There are billions of dollars lost per month due to virus attacks. Most of them are buffer overruns. A secure OS ought to be interesting to someone. -- C-FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html "The C-FAQ Book" ISBN 0-201-84519-9 C.A.P. FAQ: ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/Chess%20Analysis%20Project%20FAQ.htm