From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.96.136 with SMTP id h8mr11110qan.8.1379916311219; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:05:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.71.207 with SMTP id x15mr2531qeu.18.1379916311195; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca3.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!d5no1503402qap.0!news-out.google.com!gv3ni1143qab.0!nntp.google.com!d5no1572293qap.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:05:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=174.28.152.201; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.28.152.201 References: <2f813569-5ff8-4c20-a5ab-8538e6514906@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant) From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:05:11 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Bytes: 2620 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:183407 Date: 2013-09-22T23:05:11-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:14:12 PM UTC-6, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: >=20 > Also that devices of any sort, can be viewed as files. This is a nice > and clean interface design. No, it really isn't. (Nice, anyway; clean is very arguable.) Devices *aren't* files, and viewing them as files forces you to the lowest = common denominator: much like those claiming "it's all binary [so types don= 't matter]" it fails to realize the fundamental differences between the dev= ices just as the "it's a blob of binary" fails to realize that arithmetic-a= ddition on a string is not good. > A socket is treated as a file just as well as > a plain text file or a hard disk device. Piping and stdout/stdin/stderr > etc... all makes things work well together. Until the crapracular file-system screws up permissions. > Make one small program that does one thing, but does it very well, is > what I like about Unix/Linux. (...but I am still waiting for the year tha= t > Linux finally figures how to build an easy to use desktop :) Because of the above mentality*, it may never happen. * Ease of implementation over ease of use. (The Unix mentality also elevate= s implementation-ease over correctness.)