From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-04 01:05:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: "Chad R. Meiners" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Future with Ada Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:47:07 -0500 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: References: <3wdH7.20135$xS6.32614@www.newsranger.com> <9tqete0gqc@drn.newsguy.com> <3C0924D6.2B5A3087@adaworks.com> <250220022121494455%thehouseofcards@remove.this.part.mac.com> <3C7B0B13.3080003@worldnet.att.net> <3C7D1C89.2000803@home.com> <3C7E7CAD.7070504@mail.com> <3C7FB9D2.D9C6E055@boeing.com> <3C81DF1F.9000503@mail.com> Reply-To: "Chad R. Meiners" NNTP-Posting-Host: arctic.cse.msu.edu X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20750 Date: 2002-03-03T12:47:07-05:00 List-Id: Ah, there is that evil word, "concise". Often thought of as a holy objective by computer scientist and mathematician alike. The danger here is that people often equate conciseness with clarity. This of course is an incorrect assumption. Concise expressions, theorems, definitions, etc are valued since because they allow you to refresh your memory quickly. The problem is that they do not make good teaching material without the accompaniment of an introduction and explanation. The "curly braced languages are concise hence better" argument is malformed at best and perverse at worst since the mathematical symbols curly braced languages adopted are meant for a completely different type of communication. I know you most likely meant to include a smiley in your statement, Hyman, but if you didn't perhaps the above will establish why many have preferences opposite of yours. -CRM "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message news:3C81DF1F.9000503@mail.com... > Jeffrey Carter wrote: > > No, it's primarily the difference between coders and software engineers. > > You mean because software engineers value conciseness and economy > of expression, they prefer braces, while coders, who get paid by > the line, prefer the wordier languages and begin/end? >