From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,XPRIO autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d274f280c8c4a8b8,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-22 18:24:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!isdnet!btnet-peer1!btnet-peer0!btnet-feed5!btnet!news.btopenworld.com!not-for-mail From: "Al Mole" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Mainstream Ada Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 02:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Organization: BT Openworld Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: host213-122-134-140.in-addr.btopenworld.com X-Trace: helle.btinternet.com 1014431026 13764 213.122.134.140 (23 Feb 2002 02:23:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news-complaints@lists.btinternet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 02:23:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20278 Date: 2002-02-23T02:23:46+00:00 List-Id: What I find slightly frustrating about this newsgroup - and about friends who are still working in Ada in defence - is the lack of acknowledgement of what the rest of the world is doing. The cost of bad code and bad coding practice might not be literally counted in terms of lives outside the defence and aerospace industries but I reckon avoidable maintenance has cost me 5 years of my life and I'd guess that added up over the software community as a whole we're talking thousands of man years. Add to that the man years involved in sorting out problems like Code Red and Nimda (to name two that are the result of bad code) and we're looking at an awful lot of wasted life. And this is without counting the financial loss. Is there any chance of good programming principles, practice and tools going mainstream ? I've been fighting a losing battle in telecoms for the last 10 years. Is Ada the right language ? Can it be sold mainstream ?