From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,c5a1b550369384d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-07 17:12:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada research survey Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:16:56 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <35035799.0202060951.43d785d9@posting.google.com> <35035799.0202070818.52400545@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1013105818 13809 136.170.200.133 (7 Feb 2002 18:16:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Feb 2002 18:16:58 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19744 Date: 2002-02-07T18:16:58+00:00 List-Id: I've said elsewhere that Ada could benefit from some serious market research, so I'm not against this - even if it is not made public. If some tool vendor(s) want some market research to better structure their products and are willing to pay for the results, that still is beneficial to Ada. That said, I'd agree that anonymous answers would get more web participation. There are entirely too many SPAM artists out there who will stoop to very underhanded ways of obtaining valid e-mail addresses - and we have no way of distinguishing them from legitimate researchers. Many marketing firms will ask for a variety of research data (which I am willing to supply) along with a variety of personal contact data (which I am not willing to supply) and not offer an option to opt-out of it. I may be willing to answer a survey, but not if it invites SPAM from companies I have no desire to communicate with or generates a variety of sales calls or increases my load of junk mail. (Note: I make it a policy to *NEVER* buy anything from anyone rude enough to SPAM me or telephone-market me, so be advised that this is a WASTE OF YOUR TIME to attempt to do so. Junk mail ends up shredded and on my compost heap, so save the postage. When the heap gets too big I may start putting the junk mail from one envelope into the business-reply envelope of another junk mail just to make this even less cost effective. :-) Market researchers would do well to listen to these gripes and possibly conclude that the value of the personal contact information is not as important as the loss of goodwill they will experience by collecting/using/selling it. If the web page asking for the data becomes anonymous, I'm willing to fill it out. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message news:IcFV4hm4VsRm@eisner.encompasserve.org... > > You will find you get more people willing to give opinions if you > structure things so they don't have to give an email address.