From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-04 15:49:27 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:58:00 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3C58AE09.7070503@worldnet.att.net> <3C5A8A09.95084CAD@baesystems.com> <3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1012838283 24620 136.170.200.133 (4 Feb 2002 15:58:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Feb 2002 15:58:03 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19607 Date: 2002-02-04T15:58:03+00:00 List-Id: Well, its easier to adopt Ada for a PC/Workstation app than to adopt it for an embedded platform. At least there is an Ada compiler somewhere targeted to most of the popular PC/Workstation environments - something that is not always true of embedded machines. I've looked briefly at GtkAda and Glade in the past and not having a serious use for them at the time (and a general lack of time for fooling around! :-) I kind of let the effort wither on the vine. I've got something going on that might be able to make use of them now, so I'll probably ressurect the effort. I've noticed an on-line tutorial or two that might help coinsiderably. (I couldn't quite figure out how to use Glade to get a GUI built that didn't look like a P.O.S. A tutorial on driving it around may help if it shows how to organize the widgets into a nice looking interface. I just don't have time to tinker with it forever and figure it out.) Tools like this are moving things in the right direction because it starts providing the application development leverage that other languages might already have. It would be nice to see all these pieces wired together into a single tool - some version of a source code browser/editor as the main interface that you point at a "project library" and then initiate Glade, Gdb, etc from that platform as needed & have them all working together. (I noticed in scanning some of the pages about Gtk that there were a whole set of Gnome widgets that looked really useful - but they didn't come along for the ride with GtkAda. It would add even more leverage to have these, or similar widgets available.) Anyway, the point is that as Ada finds more ways of getting into the PC/Workstation development arena, it makes it easier to commit to it for embedded systems because more and more tools become available as well as building up an experience base. In general, its a good thing. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Adrian Hoe" wrote in message news:3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com... > > More people are accepting Ada now, at least in my company (new staff). > Ada will not have the glory of other development tools eg. C++ Builder, > Delphi, etc. until much bindings are available for programmers' > disposal. GtkAda and Glade are just the beginning. There is still a long > way to go for Ada to be accepted in the non-embedded, business > applications area. >