From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-01 15:37:55 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!psiuk-p2!psiuk-p3!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:02:34 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: References: <3C58AE09.7070503@worldnet.att.net> <3C5A8A09.95084CAD@baesystems.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-200-133.miami.pace.co.uk X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 1012597354 25141 136.170.200.133 (1 Feb 2002 21:02:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@news.cam.pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Feb 2002 21:02:34 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19510 Date: 2002-02-01T21:02:34+00:00 List-Id: Like I said - it depends on what you want to count. We could discuss that until the cows come home. Clearly, some consumer-oriented box with 5000 lines of C code in it is not really in the same league with an F-22 with millions of lines of Ada code in it. But last I heard the government was only going to buy a few hundred F-22s over the project life whereas the little 5000 line C doohickie might be selling in the millions of units. So which is the more "important" project and how would you stack them up with respect to which is the more "important" programming language for embedded systems? I still don't think that any way you want to count it that Ada is going to score as a major player in the embedded computing world anymore. It's kind of relegated to the "also ran" category - which is a shame because lots of people will admit that it really is a good language for embedded computing. There are just a lot of factors that hinder its success in this area. I think that as Ada continues to grow in the non-embedded fields it will start encouraging more usage in the embedded world. Tools become more prevalent and experience builds with it and along the way it will trickle into the embedded world. But it will be a slow process and it is dependent on how successfully Ada penetrates the more "normal" sorts of application development. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "David Gillon" wrote in message news:3C5A8A09.95084CAD@baesystems.com... > > I suspect this may be the case. A more interesting set of figures (ok, > more flattering to Ada) might be man years of effort, or project value. > 1 Ada box going into F-22, 777 or whatever will likely take considerably > more effort and earn more value than a dozen C boxes running > air-conditioning systems. >