From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,b2c4d98cbc17f0a9 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A proposal for Debian policy for Ada Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 06:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <87aarzd14c.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <198miwzl97pnl$.1onmpwoadjr1p.dlg@40tude.net> <87632ncxjg.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <9vgayrtxydx3.y97a4jp28sin$.dlg@40tude.net> <821vd91vx3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <128sk4lf7e74o.exterpadd849$.dlg@40tude.net> <82tyq4xn38.fsf@stephe-leake.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1274275307 27230 127.0.0.1 (19 May 2010 13:21:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 13:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: v37g2000vbv.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009012111 Red Hat/3.0.6-1.el5 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11762 Date: 2010-05-19T06:21:47-07:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote on comp.lang.ada: > On Wed, 19 May 2010 03:41:06 -0700 (PDT), Ludovic Brenta wrote: >> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>> On Wed, 19 May 2010 05:22:35 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote: >>>> As Ludovic points out, that does not cover the entire Linux Ada commun= ity. > >>> We need not to cover it, we need those who maintain distributions. Even >>> less than that, only those who determine policy rules for Ada. It is li= kely >>> less than one dozen. > >> Dmitry, I like it when people have grandiose ideas on how to change >> the world but I like it better when they actually do it. =A0So please, >> now that you've identified the problem pretty well, go ahead and send >> the invitations. > > I am not a maintainer, not even a regular Linux user. If maintainers don'= t > want it, then they don't. No need for other reasons. After all there is t= he > Linux Standard Base project. In ten years they may come up with something= , > and then force Ada maintainers to something more usable. I don't think they will even in 20 years. The Linux Standards Base is, by design, a lowest common denominator and Ada is probably well below their radar. If they ever hear about Ada and GNAT, they'll probably think this is a "specialized" language and tool best left outside their standards. Also, in the Free Software world, you must scratch your own itch; you cannot just assume that someone else will. On a purely theoretical level, I am all in favor of more and unified support for Ada in all GNU/Linux distributions. But this vision can only be fulfilled when someone who really wants this problem solved does the work. When such a person comes along I will gladly cooperate. -- Ludovic Brenta.