From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6192a34d0c9ffe5b X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Rugxulo Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Tutor Web Site Shutting Down Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <7f53de8e-2400-4c87-a818-0b389e117c42@e21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> <4d9eea12$0$302$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <2aeab5d1-fa6d-47de-ab53-9a8e6ab5f27a@h9g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <3a6f1fc2-3ae0-42d9-b483-d16cf7ab1566@x8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <991499fb-bc24-4d7e-baf6-a9c0e16333e6@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> <291504a4-ec55-45f1-bf7f-13078bf71c3e@m10g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <4dcbf260$0$6992$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.115.246 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1305222032 5560 127.0.0.1 (12 May 2011 17:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 17:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r33g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.13.115.246; posting-account=p5rsXQoAAAB8KPnVlgg9E_vlm2dvVhfO User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/534.24 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/11.0.696.65 Safari/534.24,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:20208 Date: 2011-05-12T10:40:31-07:00 List-Id: Hi, On May 12, 9:44=A0am, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > On 12.05.11 15:28, Rugxulo wrote: > > > On May 11, 7:45 pm, "Randy Brukardt" wrote: > > Then again, DOS isn't cool anymore. > > Has DOS ever been cool? =A0I mean cool? =A0 At one time, it was very very popular and available on almost all home PCs. Lots and lots of commercial DOS games were produced, and most of these are still sold (e.g. Gog.com). Many DOSes and emulations exist, actually, so somebody thought it was worth keeping (if not you, obviously). > Rather, adopting DOS seems quite > frankly the most far reaching mistake that computer dependent > industry has committed, Why, because of the dependency on the evil BIOS? Or because it made MS our evil overlords? DOS was used because of the extremely low RAM of the day (16 to 64 kb, I think) on the original IBM PC. Well, and also CP/M-86 wasn't ready, so they just used the cheap clone with identical API called PC-DOS (MS- DOS). > the consequences being loss of both > software quality and---far worse---a collective loss of any knowledge > of what quality software might be! Not true. Quality software can be written on any OS. "A poor carpenter blames his tools." Many successful things have been written for DOS, not the least of which are Lotus 123, MS Word, Turbo C++, Turbo Pascal, Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, Quake, and a bunch of ports of GNU tools. > >> Or a security nightmare waiting to happen? Same with "call the BIOS". > > > People always find a way to breach security anyways. But yeah, DOS has > > pretty much none anyways, always "root". =A0:-) > > Is DOS's privilege system different from what you get with > typical =B5 targets? It's just minimal, meaning it's not all baked into the kernel, for good or bad. You can add layers to it, of course. > OTOH, this all has little to do with Ada Tutor web site > shutting down. ;-) Well, I was primarily pointing out that Ada is still supported for DOS (barely) via GNAT/DJGPP. Then I was discussing compatibility re: Janus' old 32-bit DOS offering. Hey, it's probably the most traffic you've had re: Ada usage for DOS in years!