From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.93.19 with SMTP id t19mr9524026qam.3.1379915753476; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:55:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.88.40 with SMTP id bd8mr1463qeb.27.1379915753413; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Path: border1.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!209.197.12.242.MISMATCH!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.11.MISMATCH!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!d5no1502802qap.0!news-out.google.com!gv3ni1213qab.0!nntp.google.com!d5no1502794qap.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:55:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=174.28.152.201; posting-account=lJ3JNwoAAAAQfH3VV9vttJLkThaxtTfC NNTP-Posting-Host: 174.28.152.201 References: <2f813569-5ff8-4c20-a5ab-8538e6514906@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant) From: Shark8 Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:55:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2734 X-Original-Bytes: 3072 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:183405 Date: 2013-09-22T22:55:53-07:00 List-Id: On Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:43:36 PM UTC-6, Peter Brooks wrote: > On Sunday, 22 September 2013 23:24:24 UTC+2, Shark8 wrote: > >=20 > > Tell me about it; that's one of the biggest turn-offs I encountered in = school. There's a portion of a rant in the Unix-Hater's Handbook which clai= ms that Unix had stunted development/advancement in OSes and with that atti= tude I encountered I don't doubt it (or that the same is [mostly] true of C= /C++). >=20 > If a proper APSE had been developed, I'm sure it would have displaced Uni= x. If by ASPE you mean an Ada Programming Support Environment, then there was = the R-1000. I found a pretty interesting website/blog about a guy's memorie= s of using it. > The power of Unix is mainly down to the brilliant invention of fork and e= xec - they're what led to sockets and the elegance of TCP/IP compared to ot= her protocols of the time. Fork and Exec led to sockets and TCP/IP? I'm sorry, but I seriously don't s= ee the connection there. > This is particularly evident if you look at the horlicks that MSDOS makes= of networking, even DOS version Windows 7. That's flat-out false: Windows XP, 2000, and 7 are all descended from the N= T Kernel, which means they *aren't* impacted by the design of DOS/Win3/Win9= 5/Win98. (But that they are as compatible as they are to programs from that= branch of development shows how much effort and care went into building th= e compatibility layer.)