From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-02 23:54:36 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s54.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Mark A. Biggar" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <_Qnpb.67353$mZ5.428086@attbi_s54> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.235.88.213 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s54 1067846074 12.235.88.213 (Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:54:34 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:54:34 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 07:54:34 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1948 Date: 2003-11-03T07:54:34+00:00 List-Id: Alexandre E. Kopilovitch wrote: > I wonder, why do you think that mentoring is more important in software > engineering than in all classical sciences? Or in professions like doctors and > lawyers? There is enough complexity, and safety requirements are often high > enough. And no one of them is organized in guilds now. Even those "social" > sciences that until recently traditionally have competing "schools" (which > somehow resemble guilds) are gradually leaving that way. But the other professions DO use a guild system. Just because they aren't called apprentices and journeymen any more (they're called med-students and residents or law-students and associates instead) doesn't mean those professions don't work that way. Don't let the fact they call themselves the AMA and the BAR and don't use the word guild anymore fool you, and notice that they control entry into membership just as fanatically as any medieval guild ever did. Yes, most good software engineers learned most of what they know from a few good mentors (and I bless those that mentored me) and it would be nice if it were a little more formal. -- mark@biggar.org mark.a.biggar@comcast.net