From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,967ae26df92535de X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-09-17 00:38:34 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!news-x2.support.nl!amsnews01.chello.com!Flipper.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "CodeMage" From: "CodeMage" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3D8356A7.9010208@worldnet.att.net> <9_2h9.18347$0p1.331293@news2.ulv.nextra.no> <3D84DD98.6080504@worldnet.att.net> <3D84E044.9020306@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: New Software Forum Organization: The CodeMages Community X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 07:38:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.187.5.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@chello.nl X-Trace: Flipper 1032248313 212.187.5.129 (Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:38:33 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:38:33 MET DST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:29062 Date: 2002-09-17T07:38:33+00:00 List-Id: "Keith Thompson" wrote in message news:yecit154i0y.fsf@king.cts.com... > "CodeMage" writes: [snip] > Why do you feel the need to tell my browser how to display your text? > I've configured my browser so that text is presented, by default, at a > size I find comfortable. Anything smaller than that is going to be > difficult for me to read. Your choice of dark blue on light blue also > doesn't help legibility. At the risk of continuing this slightly off-topic discussion in this newsgroup, I would like to say the following about that, which is partly in response to "sk" as well. At least I find your posting a little bit more open-minded and constructive in nature than the posting by "sk". Using cascading stylesheets (CSS) is an accepted practice to effectively separate site layout from site content. When I say that my web site 'forces' its layout on the viewer, I meant to say that a modern web browser (Mozilla, Netscape, Opera, IE, you name it) is inclined to follow those layout rules as specified in those stylesheets, but is not by any means required to follow these rules. If I look around on the Internet, I see a large amount of web sites that use the same technique and for a good reason: as a web site author you want to ensure that no matter what browser is used and no matter what computer configuration is used, the site will have a 'fair chance' to appear and behave in exactly the same way. This means the author also needs to be careful with the kind of HTML, the kind of scripting and the kind of layout directives s/he uses. I feel that every site that wants to transcend the simple 'plain text' appearance will have parts on the screen (e.g. title bars, menu boxes, navigation chain, sidebars) that have been designed carefully with a particular homogenous layout in mind. Using CSS this design is recommended to the web browser, but it may be overridden by the same web browser and some of them handle that a little bit easier than others. I suggest that if people still feel the need to discuss this topic further we could take it to the proper place, i.e. the forum on the CodeMages Community. (unless people are also having trouble reading that! :P). Having said all that, I am going to collect all the useful suggestions that I have read in this newsgroup and I will implement them in the next major site redesign. Kind regards, CodeMage