From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-15 08:43:54 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!ruti.visi.com!visi.com!ejensen From: Ed Jensen Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy References: <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990927 ("Nine While Nine") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.6 (sun4u)) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:43:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.98.98.8 X-Complaints-To: abuse@visi.com X-Trace: ruti.visi.com 992619832 209.98.98.8 (Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:43:52 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 10:43:52 CDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8781 comp.lang.java.programmer:76687 comp.lang.pl1:1048 comp.lang.vrml:3826 comp.lang.java.advocacy:21247 Date: 2001-06-15T15:43:52+00:00 List-Id: In comp.lang.java.programmer Ted Dennison wrote: : "Open" doesn't quite reach it, because there's no implication that the right to : redistribute is present, only the right to inspect. : "Liberated" is actually a little closer to what I think they were shooting for. : However, that word implies previous enslavement, which isn't quite right either. : "Free" really has the perfect meaning. The only problem is that is has other : seprate meanings as well. :-( : Anyway, better minds than ours (OK, better than mine at least) have been all : over this nomenclature issue to exhaustion. I doubt we'll be able to fix it : here, short of switching this whole thread to French. The BSD license seems much closer to "free" than the many-strings-attached GPL. Of course, the true goal of the FSF, and their chosen tool, the GPL, is not software freedom. It is the destruction of commercial software, which they find unethical. The BSD license already offers software freedom. The GPL is merely an attempt to enforce their manifesto through brilliant viral-like propagation. -Ed