From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,36a29c2860aff686 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!85.214.198.2.MISMATCH!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Warren Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Properties Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <3b84c8e7-1a51-4a7c-9646-119f1fc51478@s4g2000yql.googlegroups.com> <4pnv7nl4cdui$.1n28i7lqk4mek$.dlg@40tude.net> Injection-Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 15:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9f8M0iN5t54V+4DF/iqO8g"; logging-data="30696"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+iKgkFzcBYCqLxCIjmZnMkcrxSEjqnuQ=" User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: &6@]C2>ZS=NM|HE-^zWuryN#Z/2_.s9E|G&~DRi|sav9{E}XQJb*\_>=a5"q]\%A;5}LKP][1mA{gZ,Q!j Cancel-Lock: sha1:2/JEvRQPsblfQbDgN+kVnP0X+nw= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:16692 Date: 2010-12-01T15:21:39+00:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov expounded in news:4pnv7nl4cdui$.1n28i7lqk4mek$.dlg@40tude.net: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:27:12 +0000 (UTC), Warren wrote: > We have an > awful string processing library because there is no class > of string types. I think I have to agree there. It just seems like a heavy interface with this emphasis on character maps. > The container library based on generics > does not support array views. There are definitely some challenges there. Some perhaps worth pursuing more. > We will never be able to > create a standard GUI library (on the Ada level of safety > and usability, I mean), because types, tasks, protected > objects don't play good with each other, etc. That would seem to be the acid test. I haven't looked at GtkAda in years, but my early version opinion of it was that it seemed too much like bending a C library into Ada terms. A library designed in Ada from the ground up, would be better. Part of the difficulty is that something like a GUI takes so much effort to develop. To get one developed to a "standard level" would likely require some level of sponsorship. Especially if you want to also attempt to make it platform neutral. Warren