From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM,PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,751d508677a5add1 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Warren Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: [Ada] made me hate programming Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <8f469661-370c-4484-82d8-f1b365455e0f@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> <98aa58b3-50fc-418d-9f72-524b5a23c89d@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9f8M0iN5t54V+4DF/iqO8g"; logging-data="3446"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19mwxLRgqEVDeM1IUv+s2KwHNL8LCCIqUg=" User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: &6@]C2>ZS=NM|HE-^zWuryN#Z/2_.s9E|G&~DRi|sav9{E}XQJb*\_>=a5"q]\%A;5}LKP][1mA{gZ,Q!j Cancel-Lock: sha1:dP5U9zzpBRpAfRQZ3KvmS05eh4g= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13672 Date: 2010-08-23T15:51:34+00:00 List-Id: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Yannick_Duch=EAne_=28Hibou57=29?= expounded in news:op.vhrjgze1xmjfy8@garhos: > Le Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:05:50 +0200, Warren a �crit: >> The compiler is your friend- only except when it >> presents a 'bug box'. ;-) > You got it (about the compile-time bug-box, especially when you do not > have any other choice for the compiler) It can be a fun exercise to see what is provoking the bug box. While it is best to report those, I do find that the present reporting "process" is too time consuming. I find it is quicker and eaiser to find a work-around and hope that the bug has already been reported. Only as a last resort, I'll report it. They need to make that process easier somehow. For example, allow the user to just send all the *.adb and *.ads files used. Instead they insist on *ada files and don't want anything that is not involved. Gnat tries to name the involved sources, but I have found that this isn't reliable - resulting in more futzing around. I understand the reasons for these things but this creates a lot of fussing for the bug submitter. The harder it is to submit a bug, the more it discourages submissions. There were some other things but I don't recall them now. By the time you've submitted the report, 2-3 hours have wizzed by. Warren