From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,11414a19b0e4a97a X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Warren Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <87631dmdmz.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <2bb211f057648e4d892829e5ee79e34c@mixmaster.it> Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9f8M0iN5t54V+4DF/iqO8g"; logging-data="10170"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19laIu/dXgUuTtfb+j1j2el0TZW7yQKnpk=" User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: &6@]C2>ZS=NM|HE-^zWuryN#Z/2_.s9E|G&~DRi|sav9{E}XQJb*\_>=a5"q]\%A;5}LKP][1mA{gZ,Q!j Cancel-Lock: sha1:3Drz2rdxXHiu11A09il6CzebpBM= Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11860 Date: 2010-06-21T20:04:01+00:00 List-Id: Jeffrey R. Carter expounded in news:hvo844$h10$1@tornado.tornevall.net: > Warren wrote: >> >> I think you are generally right, until you get to "Quality >> no longer matters". I think it usually _does_ matter, but as >> you say, they've come to accept bugs as "normal". A quality >> product is still the goal from semi-honest companies. Certainly >> from a competitive pov. > > Not necessarily. US defense "cost-plus" contracts are more profitable > the lower the quality (as long as the quality remains acceptable to > the customer, who has been brainwashed to accept fairly low quality). I agree with the "not necessarily" part. But when a company (any company) has enough work already, then getting it right the first time has advantages. OTOH, if you want to milk a contract, then I can see the attraction that bugs may provide. Warren