From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6609c40f81b32989 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,9bdec20bcc7f3687 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Thread: 101deb,e67cdb1dcad3c668 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,gid8d3408f8c3,gidbda4de328f,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Warren Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.pl1 Subject: Re: Why is Ada considered "too specialized" for scientific use Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <4bbb5386$0$56422$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bbdf5c6$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4bc5a413$0$78577$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bc6e42f$2$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> <4bd19a2b$0$895$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4bd22c67$0$14121$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl> Injection-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9f8M0iN5t54V+4DF/iqO8g"; logging-data="22354"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18oUO5L6Bw70Ppkmqhm4BXG90jjeoW/HxI=" User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Face: &6@]C2>ZS=NM|HE-^zWuryN#Z/2_.s9E|G&~DRi|sav9{E}XQJb*\_>=a5"q]\%A;5}LKP][1mA{gZ,Q!j Cancel-Lock: sha1:JJpoiJxSxrNZUp3OYzuBfhCEs1o= Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11182 comp.lang.fortran:25047 comp.lang.pl1:1293 Date: 2010-04-26T15:28:10+00:00 List-Id: glen herrmannsfeldt expounded in news:hqte3r$et0$5@naig.caltech.edu: > In comp.lang.fortran Sjouke Burry > wrote: (snip) > >> Just take any bad quality resistor, zenerdiode, or a number >> of other electronic components, amplify the noise, and use it >> with a bit of hardware to produce an endless stream of random >> numbers. No computers needed. > > Well, you need at least some digital logic to convert it > into a number. There is a paper by intel on their design for > a random number generator based on such noise sources. > > -- glen Sampling speed is another critical factor. If sampling exceeds the bit flip rate, then it becomes less "random" ;-) Warren