From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1116ece181be1aea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-17 10:11:34 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Writing on the Wall for Ada? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:56:36 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1063817783 198.96.223.163 (Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:56:23 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:56:23 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42625 Date: 2003-09-17T12:56:36-04:00 List-Id: Matthew Heaney wrote: > Hyman Rosen writes: >>Matthew Heaney wrote: >> >>>The multiple views idiom in Ada95 doesn't preclude that at all. >> >>It's fine, but what's wrong with letting the language handle the >>plumbing for you, instead of making you do it yourself? And the >>bit about access discriminants getting initialized with the address >>of the object containing them seems a little gimmicky to me, compared >>to arbitrary constructors. > > Ada95 doesn't have MI. It will never have MI. So what to do? The point is that a more natural language interface is needed for MI. Remember that Ada included a more natural interface to such ideas as tasking and protected objects. MI does not need to be an orphan. This is what I am hearing in comp.lang.ada, and sometimes thinking myself ;-) -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg