From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,985762be6fa32f22 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Improving Ada's Image Date: 28 Jun 2004 11:00:04 -0600 Organization: LJK Software Message-ID: References: <2k06c5F16ql15U2@uni-berlin.de> <40DC0CA6.5040704@noplace.com> <06OtmLncSDdl@eisner.encompasserve.org> <40DDDBE0.1080207@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1088438384 22715 192.135.80.34 (28 Jun 2004 15:59:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1974 Date: 2004-06-28T11:00:04-06:00 List-Id: In article , "Frank J. Lhota" writes: > "Marin David Condic" wrote in message > news:40DDDBE0.1080207@noplace.com... >> If VMS ran on a PC (and other platforms besides DEC equipment) and it >> was available for what people tend to pay for a Windows or Linux >> installation (near nothing in many cases) it might have stood a chance. >> Even if VMS only ran on an Alpha, but you could at least buy one for >> around a grand (like you can with a lower end PC) and it came with all >> the end-user features one typically finds available on a PC - or can >> readily be obtained for a PC at a rational cost - it might have been a >> contender. But the Adult Supervision at DEC had other ideas - and where >> are they now? > > I have a brother-in-law who, while he worked at DEC, had an Alpha-based > laptop that ran VMS. I always wondered why this sort of platform was not > more heavily promoted by DEC. It was made by Tadpole rather than DEC (the only instance of a non-military machine from a third party for which VMS was supported). It cost $14,000. By today's standards, of course, it draws too much power and has too little memory. The next source of a VMS laptop will likely be an Itanium laptop, but those do not seem imminent. In the meantime, some people run VMS on IA32 machines under a VAX emulator, but that requires being plugged into the wall because the host operating systems don't have a way for the emulator to tell the host OS "VMS is in the idle loop - slow down the CPU".