From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,473e6b129c2f30cd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.megapath.net!news.megapath.net.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 18:28:28 -0500 From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Avatox 1.0 is now available Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 18:29:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.32.209.38 X-Trace: sv3-rxA0GnF0HB4J9VWAvrIsFRUxg0xynsd4rpPbEeJRz8SJvdhzeOcfb/r9pVAcUHNzQixC0T8UhaYaFWl!AVgsmnAiBxU1rB4LIvJhwR/mbHCLd+7aP6+iERRpLMncE2ws+ZfeXpDWClJMnNJu851vn+uRk0oe!x+y3iQiq4+IIrQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:6487 Date: 2006-09-06T18:29:56-05:00 List-Id: "Simon Wright" wrote in message news:m264giacw2.fsf@grendel.local... ... > I meant that ASISWG might be interested in 'sponsoring' a schema > definition working party (as informal as you like!). Possibly, but the responsibility for updating ASIS has been assigned to the ARG. And judging by the reactions of the ARG when we actually started working on that, the result will be very different than (but largely compatible with) the existing ASIS. The primary problem was that ASIS supposedly stands for Ada Semantic Interface Standard, but it is virtually impossible to write portable ASIS to do anything with the semantics of an Ada program. (Only the syntax of the program can be practically analyzed.) It is reported that determining whether a type is limited takes 96 lines of Ada (ASIS) code - but this is a property that every Ada compiler has a subprogram to calculate. It should be directly available in ASIS. Moreover, virtually everything in ASIS is currently optional, which makes writing ASIS programs that are portable very difficult. Plus, the standard itself is poorly written, and it's organization is such that it is arguable that ASIS users (not to mention implementers) need a license from ISO. So we're going to be busy redoing the entire standard. ASISWG will provide some guidance, but the main work will be done by the ARG and it's ASIS editors. Randy.