From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!attbi_s22.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: AW: How come Ada isn't more popular? References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1169548286.088284.198940@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1169548286.088284.198940@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.201.97.213 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mchsi.com X-Trace: attbi_s22 1169583479 12.201.97.213 (Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:17:59 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:17:59 GMT Organization: AT&T ASP.att.net Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:17:59 GMT Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8443 Date: 2007-01-23T20:17:59+00:00 List-Id: Talulah wrote: > > Popularity is the key thing surely - the chicken and egg. As a software > manager in a commercial business, I employ C programmers because there > are so few Ada programmers around in the UK. There are so few Ada > programmers in the UK because I employ C programmers! How do you break > that chain? No one should be hiring X programmers. For long term employees, you should be looking for SW engineers, whom you then train if necessary. Identifying SW engineers isn't easy, but one clue is that SW engineers generally like Ada once they've been exposed to it. This approach has long term cost savings, as Ada results in SW that is ready for deployment sooner and has far fewer post-deployment errors than SW in C. Your SW is ready before your competitors, and is higher quality. Plus, your employees, liking Ada, won't be leaving to do C for your competitors.