From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-17 07:26:14 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!feed.textport.net!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison References: <4a885870.0108112341.7ce02ac0@posting.google.com> <9l6pdo$rlo$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk> <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:25:57 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 14:25:57 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12047 Date: 2001-08-17T14:25:57+00:00 List-Id: In article <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk>, Marin David Condic says... >If some progress were shown on that front, you might even find more >volunteers to work on it because they'd have a new "toy" to play with. Who That pretty much nails the problem on the head, as far as I'm concerned. If you read much about the theory of "OpenSource" projects, you'd see that successful ones mostly started off with a single developer releasing something small and nominally useful, which then picked up a few developers willing to improve it, so that a "snowball" effect occurs. You don't start with a huge group of volunteers and a website with dicsussion boards and all the trimmings, *then* make a useful product. >I won't be critical of volunteers who may not find enough incentive there to >really push the issue and get something done in what I'd consider a timely Again, I agree here totally. I actualy feel really bad expressing my feelings on this subject, because I do really like and respect the people I know who have signed up on that project. I still hold out hope that Nick will just ignore the website and everything else for a few months and churn out something basic that folks can get started hacking on. But my pessimistic nature keeps telling me otherwise... >manner. However, I'd suggest that we don't hold this up as an example of how >Ada can be used to develop an OS - especially in posts to other newsgroups. >Instead, refer to RTEMS and other real-time efforts that have been done in >Ada. If somewhere along the line, the AdaOS website posts some code, then it >might be fair to refer others to that site as an example. Right now AdaOS is an OS discussion group, and nothing much more. In the meantime, there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of small Ada OS's running in stuff like rockets, smartbombs, and airplanes. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com