From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f49c8f164340c377 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!out01b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!cfe18fef!not-for-mail From: Gary Scott Organization: Home User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Current status of Ada? References: <7744bf.vg4.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> <1188580722.187449.288030@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46dbeaba$0$24583$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> <1188822948.182134.218960@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188822948.182134.218960@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.94.33.193 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com 1188837493 ST000 68.94.33.193 (Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:38:13 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:38:13 EDT X-UserInfo1: S[O]R^OGLBUUSWTXZBND]_\@VR]^@B@MCPWZKB]MPXHBTWICYFWUQBKZQLYJX\_ITFD_KFVLUN[DOM_A_NSYNWPFWNS[XV\I]PZ@BQ[@CDQDPCL^FKCBIPC@KLGEZEFNMDYMKHRL_YYYGDSSODXYN@[\BK[LVTWI@AXGQCOA_SAH@TPD^\AL\RLGRFWEARBM Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:38:12 -0500 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:1708 Date: 2007-09-03T11:38:12-05:00 List-Id: Maciej Sobczak wrote: > On 3 Wrz, 13:06, "Peter C. Chapin" wrote: > > >>I should think that given a choice between a person who >>knows C and nothing but C, and a person who has written non-trivial code >>in C, Ada, Java, and (say) Lisp, the second person would be more likely >>to be a better programmer... or a better software engineer. > > > And likely more expensive for that matter. This scares off the HR > types like hell. > > Being able to get a bunch of C/Java/whatever coders freshly out of > college has significant cost implications. Yes, I know that good > software engineer can be actually cheaper in the long run, but just > think about it from the point of view of the company that is > contracted for *time*. > > All this mess is actually the result of the defective economy model > that we widely practice. (It is also the same kind of mental defect > that drives toy producers to outsorce their factories to China - just > to discover later on that millions of their products are toxic or > otherwise dangerous to kids.) Until *this* is fixed, there is no hope > for wide adoption of high-integrity production techniques, whether it > is software or anything else. > Ditto > {oh, wait - is it comp.lang.ada.and.anything.else? :-) } I think it is close enough. It is answering "why is use of Ada declining?". > > -- > Maciej Sobczak > http://www.msobczak.com/ > -- Gary Scott mailto:garylscott@sbcglobal dot net Fortran Library: http://www.fortranlib.com Support the Original G95 Project: http://www.g95.org -OR- Support the GNU GFortran Project: http://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/index.html If you want to do the impossible, don't hire an expert because he knows it can't be done. -- Henry Ford