From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-01 02:43:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!lon1-news.nildram.net!195.149.20.147.MISMATCH!mercury.nildram.co.uk!not-for-mail Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 10:33:02 +0100 From: Tom Welsh Reply-To: Tom Welsh Sender: Tom Welsh Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died (was): 64 bit addressing and OOP References: <3EA04A1E.CAFC1FEF@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0304221126.7112b7d5@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304230439.55d28e70@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304240503.54dbc5d1@posting.google.com> <20619edc.0304240953.221ac70f@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304250448.5107afef@posting.google.com> <20619edc.0304252116.621a4bf4@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304260649.366530c5@posting.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.208.100.157 X-Trace: 1051782236 mercury.nildram.net 45180 213.208.100.157 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62969 comp.object:62457 comp.lang.ada:36797 Date: 2003-05-01T10:33:02+01:00 List-Id: In article , Wesley Groleau writes > >You people are talking about two different things. >There are TWO operating systems called Windows. > >Windows 3.1 / 95 / 98 / ME crashes daily for many users > >Windows NT / 2000 / XP is a completely different O.S. >It still crashes, but it is reliable enough for most >people. > That's because it is as close as they could get to VMS, under the covers. It still crashes and hangs too much because the Windows GUI was a non- negotiable legacy - which is probably harder to make reliable than a conventional mainframe OS. VMS used to be less than 10 million lines of code (C, Bliss, whatever). DECwindows added another 5-7 million or so. Windows 2000 is said to be in the region of 40 million LOC. If that's true, I think it's an amazing accomplishment that it works at all. And it is far more reliable than the older Windows variants. But it still seems to me that much less reliable than VMS was 10-15 years ago. (And yes, that had a GUI too). -- Tom Welsh