From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5dadc78d94298b82 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-13 14:05:19 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!feed-out.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!feed.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison Sender: usenet@www.newsranger.com References: <3A872501.1186F238@uol.com.br> <96926f$7m1$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Misconception about Ada? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:04:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com X-Trace: www.newsranger.com 982101875 127.0.0.1 (Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:04:35 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:04:35 EST Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:5236 Date: 2001-02-13T22:04:35+00:00 List-Id: In article , Brian Rogoff says... > >On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Ted Dennison wrote: > >> >Ever play speed chess? It's rather different from a regular chess >> game >> >> Actually, the way I play chess is an excellent example. You can consider >> me sort of a "chess hacker", in my sense of the word "hacker". .. >> I play each move as its >> own game, with no overriding plan (and no idea how to make one). As a >Well, the problem you're describing is that you don't know how to play >chess at all, except that maybe you know the rules. This isn't analogous *bing*bing**bing*. We have a winner! Perhaps it isn't analogous to the term "hacker" as you are used to it, but it is *perfectly* analogous to the term as I am used to it. > > I'm incapable of beating anyone who's any good. In particular: >> o I >> walk right into traps. >> o My position after the first few moves is always a >> complete mess. >> o I take forever to perform a move. > >Why? If you don't know what you're doing you may as well move randomly :-) >I'd suggest picking up a book on the basic principles of chess, or just >give up playing. I can't imagine it would be any fun playing if I didn't >have a very basic grasp of the "physics" of chess. My Go knowledge is >unfortunately weak, and I don't know that I'll ever have the chance to >remedy that :-(. > >> >programming is even more >> valuable in rapid development. Once you've got >> >the basics of Ada down, it's >> pretty fast to write since you don't debug as >> >much as in C. >> >> I'd agree with >> that. However, even for "rapid development", you have to sit down >> first and >> figure out what you are trying to do and roughly how you want to try >> to get >> there. If you just sit down at a GUI-builder and start throwing controls >> up on >> the screen, you'll take 3 times a long to get anywhere, and it probably >> won't be >> a pleasant place when you get there. > >People with lots of GUI experience are able to come up with decent GUIs >for smallish apps without a lot of up front work. In many cases that's >sufficient. > >My main point is that Ada doesn't lose to C or C++ for hacking on account >of its strong typing, though the lack of libraries doesn't help. > >-- Brian > > --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com