From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-08 17:12:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed3.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 19:12:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 19:12:07 -0500 From: Wes Groleau Reply-To: groleau+news@freeshell.org Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Macintosh/20040208) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org> <54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com> <406EB6D2.8030801@noplace.com> <87d66pyw1g.fsf@insalien.org> <406EEC35.7040109@noplace.com> <874qs0zvy1.fsf@insalien.org> <40714C98.90601@noplace.com> <1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com> <40729B9D.30906@noplace.com> <1076000ef5oj06f@corp.supernews.com> <0emdncWNfbOyUendRVn-gg@gbronline.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.9.86.70 X-Trace: sv3-fa0nC7t/Q0VlnojuVF9X5c8db/w1XEvRC38KjeW09uSyN3t2evdqEXhJTAL7U5mQ2f2whxG8hjJM5/R!WkakEiADyc1nYPPRZfmmmWR9Pntip5O4L2gfZuZtrR0dzSNeF/tZEhBrG4vSvzIyhCijIf7Ibcav X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6872 Date: 2004-04-08T19:12:07-05:00 List-Id: chris wrote: > I'd like to see unbiased studies that find that an Ada programmer is > 10times more productive than a Java one. It just seems like it's [snip] > The productivity argument is useless all languages are on equal footing > (you might be able to do such a comparison on .Net). Whether the studies are unbiased or not, I don't know. The point is not the number ten. The point is that the _fact_ that Ada is more productive in many ways is irrelevant in terms of open-source software because the non-Ada producers and debuggers so greatly outnumber the Ada producers and debuggers. -- Wes Groleau "Ideas are more powerful than guns, We would not let our enemies have guns; why should we let them have ideas?" -- Jozef Stalin