From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50,TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 26 Jul 93 04:34:26 GMT From: world!srctran@uunet.uu.net (Gregory Aharonian) Subject: Re: Ada is not a failure. Message-ID: List-Id: >We have published a list of our successes in civilian industries >(available from Xavier Dejoie (617-270-0030). The list is impressive and >growing. Automobile manufacturers, civilian aviation, process control, >energy, transportation and others. Your list is miniscule and wimpy, compared to aggregrate uses of programming languages in the US economy. If someone in the Ada world had the honesty to actually do a comprehensive survey/census of what is going on, instead of these endless lets-pat-ourselves-on-the-back lists of Ada successes, you will find that my guestimate of 2% market share for Ada is pretty close to the mark. And 2% is lousy, given the billions spent on programs using Ada. >It is true that we vendors need to better promote our successes. Alsys, >as one of the vendor community is beginning to do this now, within the >realms of fiscal reality. We also are cooperating with the Ada Software >Alliance and AJPO in efforts to increase the visibility of Ada in ways not >previously tried. Better promote Ada? How about getting your Telesoft subsidiary to start sticking the phrase "Ada" into its ads. That would be a good start. Cooperating with ASA and AJPO? Where have you guys been in the last seven years? Ways not previously tried? Geesh, there are dozens of ways of getting more attention for Ada that should have been done years ago. How about showing up at the Software Engineering trade shows, the object oriented trade shows, the reengineering trade shows, etc? (Admittedly, I feel bad getting so testy, since Alsys has the best record for advertising Ada.) >I encourage all of you to help by taking part in the promotion of its >successes. Right. A week ago I put forth a proposal on comp.lang.ada for everyone to jointly sponsor a series of ads in Computerworld. I did not hear from anyone from any of the Ada compiler vendor companies showing any interest in even just talking about the idea. No one. >It is true that we vendors need to better promote our successes. Alsys, >as one of the vendor community is beginning to do this now, within the >realms of fiscal reality. One of the reasons it is so easy to doubt the honesty of such convictions is that early on in the Ada days when the big bucks were flowing in, Ada marketing and evangelizing was for the most part ignored. Now that there is no such easy money, you guys are crying. Well too late. You assumed certain responsibilities early on in the life of Ada by allowing the country to subsidize to some extent the founding of your companies. Well, now your country is asking you to live up to your committments and make the language succeed as you should have done years ago, especially when others were trying to start Ada businesses with their own money. Many of these small startups failed because the large Ada players never played, and just gouged. And just in case your Telesoft subsidiary has no spell checker, Ada is spelled "A - D - A". -- ************************************************************************** Greg Aharonian Source Translation & Optimization P.O. Box 404, Belmont, MA 02178