From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 20 Jul 93 14:29:44 GMT From: world!srctran@uunet.uu.net (Gregory Aharonian) Subject: Re: Admiral Tuttle (Should be ...) Revisited Message-ID: List-Id: Colin James types: >Getting back to Admiral Tuttle's comments, the subject is really closed >because of what Ralph Crafts quotes Tuttle's boss as saying. The subject isn't be closed, because what Tuttle's boss says doesn't make much difference. People inside the DoD will pay as much attention to Paige's directive as they do to the Ada Mandate, i.e., very little. Besides, the DoD itself doesn't care that much either, otherwise it would show more attention in finding out what people are doing with programming languages inside the DoD. On top of which, other bosses of Tuttle probably agree with Tuttle. Paige's directive has no teeth behind it, so people are going to ignore it just like they ignore the Federal law of the Mandate. ARPA is continually on the record of not giving a damn what guys like Paige have to say about Ada. The Navy, as represented by the NRL and ONR, are too busy trying to solve problems to care about using Ada. And I could bore comp.lang.ada to death with story after story about Army and Air Force units being successful with non-Ada. So Paige's directive (which he should have posted here), means nothing and will have no effect, simply because few inside the DoD believe the sincerity of the top Brass when it comes to Ada. Besides, Tuttle has many bosses, not just Paige. One of his other bosses is Deputy Secretary Perry, who is making this BIG push to get the DoD to use COTS stuff wherever possible, trying to boost the idea of dual use technology cost advantages. Well most COTS stuff is not done in Ada (less than two percent of all COTS stuff has Ada inside), so Perry's policy, if successful, will do as much to undermine Ada as the current hypocrisy that is tolerated. So from Tuttle's point, who does he support? Paige or Perry? (Actually as long as his fellow Admirals support his actions, Tuttle can do whatever he wants), especially (if he chooses non-Ada) when he has the ONR, NRL, and ARPA behind him. Given reasonable time and money, I can prove that the majority of the DoD does not support the Ada Mandate, as reflected in what they do, not what they say. The DoD knows this, because they fear to actually find out. -- ************************************************************************** Greg Aharonian Source Translation & Optimization P.O. Box 404, Belmont, MA 02178