From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.5-pre1 (2020-06-20) on ip-172-31-74-118.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.5-pre1 Date: 23 Feb 93 00:23:50 GMT From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!world!srctran@ames. arc.nasa.gov (Gregory Aharonian) Subject: Why IBM is a detriment to non-Mandate Ada growth Message-ID: List-Id: For some time, I have been arguing that IBM's refusal to promote Ada in the commercial MIS world is effectively killing a chance that Ada will be broadly accepted, and the partial hypocrisy that results with IBM's being a part of the STARS program (i.e. kick them out and make them return the money). A recent article in an IBM specific magazine backs up my contention. The magazine (and there are magazines outside the non-Mandated world) is titled "Enterprise Systems Journal", a magazine for IBM and compatible mainframe, minis and workstations. Typical articles discuss abends, DB, MVS, RS/6000, etc. In the February 1993 issue, page 45, there is an article titled "Why IS Rejects Object-Oriented Programming", and discusses the slow acceptance of OOP by IS managers. Where IS does adopt OOP, it tends to be either C++ or Smalltalk. And once again, Ada is no where mentioned. Anyways, at one point, the author, an industry analyst, writes: "Many new OOP development environments are evolving to" address more traditional IS concerns. Smalltalk, for example, is moving rapidly toward better integration with IS software since IBM adopted the language for AD/CYCLE and established communications with the small software firms behind its development. ---- Corporate IBM has never said squat about Ada anywhere, has never included Ada in any of its news software engineering methodologies, and has little to do with small software firms behind Ada. Ada will forever be dead in the non-mandated world as long as IBM is silent about Ada. Dead, dead, dead, no matter how many people pretend that Ada has some rosy future. And while I wholeheartedly support IBM's right to whatever it feels is profitable (like ignoring Ada for Smalltalk and C++), they have no right to receive STARS funding for telling a story completely contradictory to their commercial activities. There are enough companies willing to tell both their defense and non-defense customers the same story about Ada who belong in STARS. Greg Aharonian Source Translation & Optimization -- ************************************************************************** Greg Aharonian Source Translation & Optimiztion P.O. Box 404, Belmont, MA 02178