From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-04 18:58:24 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!west.cox.net!cox.net!p01!news2.central.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Ted Dennison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 02:56:50 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.12.51.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news2.central.cox.net 1041735410 68.12.51.201 (Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:56:50 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 21:56:50 EST Organization: Cox Communications Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32555 Date: 2003-01-05T02:56:50+00:00 List-Id: Robert C. Leif wrote: > To be fair, Ada should be compared to Wirth's latest creation, Oberon. > Oberon is available as a .NET compiler. While the Ada community has talked > incessantly about writing an operating system, Wirth and Gutknecht did. > Oberon and its operating system are described in Project Oberon, > Addison-Wesley ACM Press ISBN 0-201-54428-8. http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/. > Some of the Oberon software could be translated into Ada. I have the book, and have even used the OS. I don't think its something that someone used to a modern OS is going to enjoy. But its nice to see people experimenting with the basic UI assumptions we are all accustomed to (well..it *was* nice to see back in '95 anyway). Oberon itself is interesting, but I wouldn't want to write something large in it (assuming Ada was available). Wirth's primary obsession when writing it was in keeping the language simple. That's a worthy goal, but the primary one should be keeping the user's programs simple (and easy to understand and easy to debug, etc.). I'd say the two are closely related, but are not the same thing.