From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,604e0f87aa06eab6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-15 17:06:58 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030302 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery References: <1047665830.579605@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 01:06:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.83.248.64 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1047776817 162.83.248.64 (Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:06:57 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:06:57 EST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:35371 Date: 2003-03-16T01:06:57+00:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > Wasn't that Norman Cohen in the Java case? Yes, according to > http://java.sun.com/javaone/javaone2001/pdfs/2733.pdf He's listed as a "member of the expert group". The Java generics are particularly bad. While that presentation likes to make the usual lies about C++ templates, what they don't tell you is that in the Java generics the type parameters can't be fundamental types, only Object-derived ones (look at all their examples), and that you can't overload on generics: class Joe { void f(List l) { } void f(List l) { } } I stand by my claim.