From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 10611e,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid10611e,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public X-Google-Thread: f645d,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gidf645d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-08 00:06:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!news100.world-online.no!news100.world-online.no!nntp.newmedia.no!newsfeed1.enitel.no!news.telia.no!not-for-mail From: "Eirik Mangseth" Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.object,nyc.food,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.object References: <1005188797788841@usenix.org> Subject: Re: Best language for low IQ programmers? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 08:06:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.204.164.81 X-Complaints-To: abuse@enitel.no X-Trace: news.telia.no 1005206769 195.204.164.81 (Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:06:09 CET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 09:06:09 CET Organization: Enitel Internet Public Access Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.basic.visual:10745 comp.lang.c++:102614 comp.lang.java.programmer:108600 comp.object:24307 nyc.food:2042 comp.lang.eiffel:4859 comp.lang.ada:16038 comp.lang.perl.misc:77429 Date: 2001-11-08T08:06:09+00:00 List-Id: "jmburton" wrote in message news:1005188797788841@usenix.org... > > C++ is the best choice for dull programmers. The quality of your code will > > be indistinguishable from that of a the C++ guru. > > Are you a troll? > > In case if you are genuine, which I doubt, I disagree. Eiffel is a > better language for dull programmers. Since Eiffel is usually abandoned > before software goes into production, no one will ever have to deal > with the inevitable bugs left by sloppy Eiffel programmers. > Plus, poor performance due to bad algorithms designed by poorly > educated programmers can be excused by the natural slowness of Eiffel > (garbage collection instead of efficient on-demand memory allocation > and deallocation). > > You have to know C++ anyway, as Eiffel is merely a front end to C++ > (it is compiled into C++, not native code), and requires external calls > to C++ for anything useful like OS services. > > I studied Eiffel in college and have a buddy who used to program in > that sad pathetic language, so I do know what I am talking about. And pigs will fly. > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > J M Burton > FreeBSD Consulting & Security Administration > * * * This is a .sig virus. Copy it into your .sig to propagate. * * * > -- eirik "If I can't Eiffel in heaven, I won't go"