From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,cbdf4b7efd0b03b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newscon04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr21.news.prodigy.net.POSTED!4988f22a!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <47d7de50$0$89175$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Decline? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.134.78.194 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr21.news.prodigy.net 1205623088 ST000 70.134.78.194 (Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:18:08 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:18:08 EDT Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: FKPO@MONTBWQR]TX\ZIBNFXBWR\HPCTL@XT^OBPLAH[\RWYAKVUOPCW[ML\JXUCKVFDYZKBMSFX^OMSAFNTINTDDMVW[X\THOPXZRVOCJTUTPC\_JSBVX\KAOTBAJBVMZTYAKMNLDI_MFDSSOLXINH__FS^\WQGHGI^C@E[A_CF\AQLDQ\BTMPLDFNVUQ_VM Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:18:08 GMT Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20429 Date: 2008-03-15T23:18:08+00:00 List-Id: "Thomas" wrote in message news:47d7de50$0$89175$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk... > Today I stumbled on this fairly old (2003) paper on the merits (or lack of!) > of Ada. > > http://www.sei.cmu.edu/pub/documents/03.reports/pdf/03tn021.pdf > Any paper that relies so heavily on input from Reifer is, in my opinon, suspect. He is a turncoat, once an AJPO Director and pretender to be an advocate of Ada who, upon leaving his position in AJPO, turned on the entire Ada intiative and began deprectating it. People who knew of his former AJPO role took his ill-considered advice and this did as much to damage the progress of Ada and its acceptability as anyone. I have stopped placing credence in anything he writes. The paper is a few years old. New initiatives have been on-going. Note that it continues to compliment Ada on its being a more effective alternative than other languages. Ada is still a superior technology over C++, Java, and most other languages. It is not popular for a lot of reasons, some of which go back to the inflexibility of the Ada 83 model. With Ada 95 and Ada2005, it surpasses, as a language, those alternatives. The place where Ada needs improvement is, more and improved libraries to support continuing ideas in software development (not a need for language improvement), better community awareness of its benefits, and a more effective campaign to present its successes. Richard Riehle