From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,28cd155693714664 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-17 06:51:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!chcgil2-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Faulty languages and Liability Date: 17 Jun 2002 08:51:21 -0600 Organization: LJK Software Message-ID: References: <3D0DE5E2.5010904@mail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1024321832 12099 192.135.80.34 (17 Jun 2002 13:50:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26148 Date: 2002-06-17T08:51:21-06:00 List-Id: In article <3D0DE5E2.5010904@mail.com>, Hyman Rosen writes: > Robert C. Leif wrote: >> The Ariane 5 was a design defect. >> The code produced an error exactly as specified. > > Yes, I know this. I have been here for a while, after all. > > My argument is this. Someone is proposing to haul me into > court because I use C++ instead of Ada. No rational person is going to haul you into court because you use C++. Somebody who hauls you into court because your software blew up may bring up the issue of language as _one_ of a series of issues regarding the reliability of your development process. I presume that if they say you didn't use Ada, you will also didn't use plain C. Presumably you will also show that you were not programming in C using a compiler that happened to be a C++ compiler. > Then we'll start with the finger pointing - "But Ada does > this and C++ doesn't" = "But C++ does this and Ada doesn't". > And we'll just conclude that it's up to the people who make > software to decide what to use to make it. If it got to that point yes. But if I were on the jury you would be in deep trouble if you said you used C++ because Microsoft endorsed it :-) There is a serious question in my mind whether everyone using C* has done so based on thorough reasoning. Some would be much better off implementing their project in Basic.