From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38159b1b5557a2e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-26 10:54:40 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!zeus.visi.com!priapus.visi.com!orange.octanews.net!news.octanews.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!a6202946!not-for-mail From: Jeffrey Carter Organization: jrcarter commercial-at acm [period | full stop] org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Ada Preprocessor References: <400BDB7C.40100@noplace.com> <400D2150.6000705@noplace.com> <400E72F9.8060501@noplace.com> <100upo7ln5e3k59@corp.supernews.com> <400FC8E8.2040100@noplace.com> <4011127C.4030801@noplace.com> <101377e54car5cc@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:54:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.184.16.9 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net 1075143279 63.184.16.9 (Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:54:39 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:54:39 PST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4828 Date: 2004-01-26T18:54:39+00:00 List-Id: Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: > #if sizeof(int) == 16 Ah, yes, 128-bit integers. Of course, this is not an issue in Ada, since we declare appropriate numeric types. > And what I find amusing is that except for a few that > appreciate this issue, we've heard of every ugly > work-around possible, rather than face the issue > square in the eye. This is just my opinion mind you, > and perhaps small things amuse me ;-) As someone who has faced the issue and never used a preprocessor, but has had to read code that does, I find a good design that hides the dependencies to be far more readable. Eachus has also faced the issue without using a preprocessor, with similar results. As the ARM says, Ada emphasizes "program readability over ease of writing". Preprocessors do the opposite. Preprocessors are a coder's solution; information hiding is a software engineer's solution. Perhaps to the question, "Do you like debugging?" which is very accurate at distinguishing coders from software engineers, we should add, "Do you like preprocessors?" -- Jeff Carter "I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK." Monty Python's Flying Circus 54