From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,77efb4ab26922e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!feeder.news-service.com!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!Colin_Paul_Gloster From: Colin Paul Gloster Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada compilers supporting Ada 2005 (was: Blocking syscalls in Tasks) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 16:39:55 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <48ea4717$0$6570$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Reply-To: Colin Paul Gloster Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Trace: feeder.motzarella.org U2FsdGVkX1+z8ztRo+obP2WB0f0o73W0h+WBkcnz/tBp0jknBRTqS5FJtg481t3kKkCmqVZOgrMtJO4sGJJvu8NR7FnDEnk9wrcwJwP3ks9B8pupp8oyWemjnq9JT3Wi6op+/yeth34V+O1GCxuebA== X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:39:56 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Content-ID: X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+i7o69khyGTIwTBIxVPGnwiWQ+VwT/lPAElJWL1469Ufigy1pILA6huJN/Y/dKWqM= Cancel-Lock: sha1:WJaoF3CNlvG0cqK2k3Qj8WhNOR0= X-X-Sender: Colin_Paul_Gloster@gian.fis.uc.pt Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2268 Date: 2008-10-07T16:39:55+01:00 List-Id: On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Britt Snodgrass wrote: |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[..] | | | |I'm interested to know which vendors are serious about supporting the | |standard." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| I think it is clear that RRSoftware is serious about this, even if it does not have a suitable product available yet. Similarly for Irvine, judging from answers to queries I asked in Summer 2008. Sofcheck also seems to be serious but paying clients have been demanding other things instead of Ada 2005. Of course, if you wish to pay for it... |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |"[..] | |> | |> Is a genuine Ada 2005 compiler available from Ada Core Technologies?| | | |What do you mean by "genuine"?" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| It would need to comply with the standard, and as such bugs would not be permitted. |----------------------------------------------------------------------| |" AdaCore has been far, far more | |proactive with Ada 2005 support [..]" | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| True. |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Rational | |Apex used to be a great product, but IBM has let it atrophy, making | |absolutely no effort to be competitive or market it to new customers. | |From what I've observed, they care nothing about customer retention | |for Apex and ClearCase. | | | |[..] | | | |[..] But unless | |IBM changes their business model for Apex, its will come too late to | |be competitive." | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| I was told by IBM in 2008 that because Apex is not available alone by itself that I would need to acquire many other items - none of which I need, such as a compiler for another language and a different version tracking system than what many people I collaborate with already use - from IBM for a lot more money than from some of the other compiler writers. Unless code compiled by Apex performs spectacularly better than other compilers which I shall be evaluating in the near future, then it may be difficult to make a compelling case to acquire Apex. I would prefer to have more compilers than fewer compilers, but it may be difficult to acquire every one.