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From: Glenn Williamson <gdwillia@socs.uts.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Why I didn't like Eiffel
Date: 1997/07/31
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On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Brian Kimball wrote:

> What IDE or compiler did you use?  When?

I used two different packages. The first was Unix based, I think it was 
called ISE Eiffel, v3.x.x. The main gripes with this package were :

	1) It took nearly 30 minutes to compile a simple 'Hello World'!!!
	   This was at a 'GooD TimE' too .... If the Uni computers were
	   congested at any time, say, close to an assignment being due,
	   then it may take twice as long. 
	
	2) The size of the executable on this particular system was
	   enormous. 'Hello World' came in at over 3Mb!!! Thankfully, this
	   problem was solved by SysProgs at the Uni midway thru semester.

The second package I used was Windows Based. It was the commercial version
of ISE Eiffel, which I ran on my PC at home, was far better. MY gripe with
this package, was that it didnt leave me an executable, and it didnt come
with any graphic libraries .... ( and I couldnt have been bothered going 
out looking for any! )

Don't get me wrong, I dont hate Eiffel with a vengeance, I just found that
the particular system I used didnt suit me at all ... I prefer getting
down amongst it all in C or C++, rather than being constrained by Eiffel .

	M00z,
		Glenn

P.S. I used it in the first semester of this year ....