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From: tbb03ar@mail.lrz-muenchen.de
Subject: Re: ADA SUCKS, C/C++/JAVA RULES!!!!
Date: 1997/12/04
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Date: 1997-12-04T00:00:00+00:00
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On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Kenneth W. Sodemann wrote:

> John Black, in message <34557f2b.1934172@news.mindspring.com> spewed
> forth...
> >I have tried and tried to program with Ada, but it is downright
> >impossible.  I just don't see how anyone could - or would want to -
> >use this outdated piece of crap.  It's back to C++ and Java for me.
> >Hopefully Ada and other languages will go the way of the dinosaur and
> >get hit by a meteor, disappearing from the face of the earth.
> 
> 1.)  Nice troll!!
> 
> 2.)  I find it interesting that YOU fail, and then blame the language for
> YOUR inability to grasp it.
> 
> 3.)  It is admirable that you are able to come out and let everyone know
> that you are incapable of adapting to a new language, even though I cannot
> think of anything you can do in the other languages mentioned that you
> cannot do in some way using Ada.  Maybe you are just lost without your
> wizards?
> 
> 4.)  Many of the Ada projects that I have worked on would have been much
> more difficult, or down right impossible, to manage in C or C++ (I have not
> done large scale development (or even testing) of anything written in Java,
> so I cannot comment on that).  Add to that the fact that for certain types
> of projects, you also get a lower cost of development and (especially)
> maintenance, a tendency for less bugs, etc.
> 
> Of course, if you are mostly writing Windows apps, then VC++ is a lot better
> environment than _anything_ you are going to get for Ada (at least at this
> time).  

Why? I'm using ObjectADA for Windows, and I feel quite good with it.

> Then again, we are coming back to "use the right tool for the right
> job", and right now, VC++ or VB (or maybe even Java) is often the right tool
> for that job (though Ada is making some in roads there, but the tools are
> not quite on par with VC++ yet (IMHO)).
> 
> --
> with Std_Disclaimer;  use Std_Disclaimer;
> Signature.Put (Name => Ken Sodemann,
>     E_Mail => kwsodema@avistainc.com
>     Web => http://www.pcii.net/~stuffel
>     Company_Web => http://www.avistainc.com);
> 
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