From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 14e27f,d4b3d171336fca98 X-Google-Attributes: gid14e27f,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: f753e,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gidf753e,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,d4b3d171336fca98 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,544c98121879c710 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public From: Michi Henning Subject: Re: RFD: comp.object.moderated moderated Date: 1998/10/14 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 400950600 References: <907918039.22235@isc.org> <8zPU1.660$zi4.293929060@newsreader.digex.net> <701226$h4v$1@piglet.dstc.edu.au> <36280e37.12679492@news.erols.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Organization: University of Queensland Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.ada,comp.object.corba,comp.software-eng,news.groups.news.announce.newsgroups Date: 1998-10-14T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Ell wrote: > If only for the fact that they intend on filling vacancies only > through selection by moderators - though there is more - I would > reject the proposal out of hand. I mean, I never thought that I would > hear of people *willingly* accepting that. It boggles my mind that > some people accept this. Both the notion and its acceptance are > terrible are reprehensible, as I see it. Why so? Have a look at comp.lang.c++.moderated, to pick one example. That's a group that is moderated according to the same rules. The group is extremely high quality, choc-a-block full of useful information, and not at all stifled. (If I was a moderator, I would probably be less lenient than the current moderators.) In addition, the signal-to-noise ratio is excellent, and I can read the group without having to wade through job advertisements, flames, ads for personal loans or pornographic sites, or thinly-disguised attempts by students to get someone else do do their homework for them. I don't care about principles of freedom or democracy in this case. Instead, I care about having an information source that is useful, informative, and free of irrelevant material. Moderation achieves that in an effective way, so I get what I want. By your argument, magazines, newspapers, radio stations, and TV stations shouldn't have editors either, who, after all, also exercise editorial control and have influence over content. The simple reality is that if you don't want a moderated newsgroup, don't read it. Meanwhile, the rest of us can go and be happy with that group. Democracy is freedom of choice, among other things. Michi. -- Michi Henning +61 7 33654310 DSTC Pty Ltd +61 7 33654311 (fax) University of Qld 4072 michi@dstc.edu.au AUSTRALIA http://www.dstc.edu.au/BDU/staff/michi-henning.html