From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,7332b19c66a79eea X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!193.201.147.85.MISMATCH!feed.xsnews.nl!border-2.ams.xsnews.nl!194.25.134.126.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news.uni-weimar.de!not-for-mail From: stefan-lucks@see-the.signature Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Quantified Expressions: "some" Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:33:21 +0100 Organization: Bauhaus-Universitaet Weimar Message-ID: References: <4ce31bb6$0$7670$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> Reply-To: stefan-lucks@see-the.signature NNTP-Posting-Host: medsec1.medien.uni-weimar.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: tigger.scc.uni-weimar.de 1289986537 22940 141.54.178.228 (17 Nov 2010 09:35:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@tigger.scc.uni-weimar.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:35:37 +0000 (UTC) X-X-Sender: lucks@medsec1.medien.uni-weimar.de In-Reply-To: <4ce31bb6$0$7670$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:16508 Date: 2010-11-17T12:33:21+01:00 List-Id: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > AI05-0176 explains two new expressions, > > (for all X in domain | P (X)) > > and > > (for some X in domain | P (X)) As a keyword-reuising alternative for "for some", Geor proposed > (for when X in domain | P (X)) This is really ill-readable, IMHO. As others in this thread have pointed out, this may be read as "all", actually. If you really really really wanted to avoid "some", use Mathematics: P holds for some X <=> not (not P holds for all X). Thus, the expression (for some X in domain | P(X)) could be rephrased as (not (for all X in domain | not P(X))) without any need for the word "some". But honestly, I prefer to write "some" over using "not" twice. Stefan -- ------ Stefan Lucks -- Bauhaus-University Weimar -- Germany ------ Stefan dot Lucks at uni minus weimar dot de ------ I love the taste of Cryptanalysis in the morning! ------