From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-03 07:33:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!proxad.net!proxad.net!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!internal-news-hub.cableinet.net!news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Mark Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? | for interrest. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:32:48 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.192.83.41 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blueyonder.co.uk X-Trace: news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk 1041607989 80.192.83.41 (Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:33:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:33:09 GMT Organization: blueyonder (post doesn't reflect views of blueyonder) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32492 Date: 2003-01-03T15:32:48+00:00 List-Id: On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Marin David Condic wrote: > It depends. By "Hacker Community" I meant those who are developing and > sharing software without some immediate commercial purpose in mind. Ada has > its own hacker community that is putting out some software - just not enough > of them to flood the world with something like Linux. If you can't get the > commercial developers to use Ada because of their investment in existing > technology, you get the "hackers" to build technology to surpass what is > already there. Not quite sure if anyone cares, however: I know that a number of people are trying to write/re-write various parts of the Linux kernel and kernel modules with Ada... I hear the projects 'should' be out by the summer... > > I agree that there are trends in the larger "Hacker Community" that Ada does > not fit in well with. But that doesn't mean it can't have some appeal in > some other way to some segment of the world. When you say "The drive is to > do more and more while saying less and less" I couldn't agree more nor do I > think that is a bad thing. That's simply talking about "leverage" and if Ada > concentrated on that a bit more it might start looking really attractive to > others. I don't mean shorten the syntax. I mean provide big libraries so > that a developer basically spends time patching together existing code > rather than developing it all from bottom-dead-center. Sounds good to me, would save muchos time and effort. cheers folks, Mark > > MDC > -- > ====================================================================== > Marin David Condic > I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ > My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ > > Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g > > "I'd trade it all for just a little more" > -- Charles Montgomery Burns, [4F10] > ====================================================================== > > Kevin Cline wrote in message > news:ba162549.0301030157.3147623d@posting.google.com... > > > > LOL. Look at the languages that have been adopted by the 'hacker > > world' > > over the past fifteen years: C++. Tcl/Tk. Perl. Java. Python. Ruby. > > PHP. > > The drive is to do more and more while saying less and less. Safety > > is good, but expressiveness and compatibility with existing technology > > (i.e. the Web, relational databases, and GUI) are the real drivers. OO > > is still going strong, but functional programming is gaining > > mindshare. > > Compile-link-run is on the wane. > > > > Also, all these languages provide built-in associative containers. > > Arrays are fine for small embedded systems, but not very useful > > for database-driven text processing applications. > > >