From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac193220dd94f402 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-01-08 05:16:06 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!mtu.ru!news.rosnet.ru!newsfeed.rt.ru!news.tele.dk!195.25.12.36!oleane.net!oleane!jussieu.fr!enst!enst.fr!not-for-mail From: Mario Amado Alves Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada and Database Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:14:42 +0000 (WET) Organization: ENST, France Sender: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.enst.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: avanie.enst.fr 978959467 28733 137.194.161.2 (8 Jan 2001 13:11:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@enst.fr NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:11:07 +0000 (UTC) To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: lexis.di.fct.unl.pt: maa owned process doing -bs In-Reply-To: <937kvb$tc3$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta5 Precedence: bulk List-Id: comp.lang.ada mail<->news gateway Errors-To: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org X-BeenThere: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:3773 Date: 2001-01-08T13:14:42+00:00 On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Robert Dewar wrote: > In article > >=20 > > Some of us can only understand _short_ legal texts, > > because we become very sleepy after the first ten lines ;-) >=20 > I cannot tell you how many court cases wallow in chaos caused > by non-lawyers thinking things like this, and writing down > what they think are simple straight-forward agreements that > turn out to be anything but. They should be straight-forward, in fact like the hundreds of contracts you do each day in plain natural language (not legalese), without any problem of interpretation. Court law should proceed this way: first decided what was rigth; then he would lookup for the laws to backup his decision. > > I keep looking for an understandable ten-line digest of GPL > > and "open source". >=20 > You will not find one, any ten line digest of a license > agreement is going to be full of confusion, misleading > implications, and errors. Actually such digests exist, usually in licences as a note after the reference to the GPL, saying "essentially what this means is ... [10 line digest here]". > I am sure there are people who would like to find a 4 page > booklet clearly describing all of Ada. 4-page is perhaps too little, but it is a fact that nice Ada programs are written without their author having gone through the whole ARM. > If you don't clearly understand the GPL, how can you possibly > make the judgment that your license (which I have not read) > is compatible with the GPL? I understand it roughly, from the digests. Perhaps sometime I will be able to study it fully. It is simply a matter of personal priorities, really: I still have the ARM to go through ;-) Fortunately I am a non-lawer. * * * Also, the problems you mention sound characteristic of USA law. There is a world outside USA, you know, with a lot of different law systems. The Internet and open source must of course consider this. * * * Thanks. I am learning a lot from this rare thread on Ad=AAlib. | |,| | | |RuaFranciscoTaborda24RcD 2815-249CharnecaCaparica 351+939354005 |M|A|R|I|O| |A|M|A|D|O|DepartmentoDeInformaticaFCT/UNL 2825-114 Caparica 351+212958536 |A|L|V|E|S| fax 212948541 | | | | | | maa@di.fct.unl.pt FCT 212948300