From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-18 09:19:23 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!bpr.best.vwh.net!bpr Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Brian Rogoff Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <3d0ce154_5@news.bluewin.ch> <3D0D4274.6C5E02F9@acm.org> <4519e058.0206170753.599fd771@posting.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:19:20 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.220.65.223 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 1024416924 192.220.65.223 (Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:15:24 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:15:24 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26259 Date: 2002-06-18T16:19:20+00:00 List-Id: On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Robert A Duff wrote: > 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) writes: > > > dennison@telepath.com (Ted Dennison) wrote in message news:<4519e058.0206170753.599fd771@posting.google.com>... > > > 18k11tm001@sneakemail.com (Russ) wrote in message news:... > > > > Certainly "=" is better than ":=" for assignment, but if you don't > > > > > > In what way? > > > > > > Logically, its not better. The symbol comes from math, where it > > > designates an invariant equality of values, not a moving of values > > > from one temporary storage place to another. > > I strongly agree with that sentiment. Any programming language designer > who throws away hundreds of years of perfectly good maths notation is > being arrogant, obnoxious, rude, and evil. ;-) > > Some languages use "integer" to mean a small subset of the integers, and > "real" to mean an even smaller subset of the real numbers. That's also > arrogant, etc, in my opinion. (Ada is guilty of only one of these > sins.) Ouch! You realize that you're saying that C and C++ got it right, and Ada didn't? ;-) BTW, seriously, I agree with this sentiment. int and float are much better names. Integer, Real, and Complex are not. I prefer :=, and if I could change C I would change = to := and modify all of the shorthand operators to look like Icon (:+= and the like). It is too bad that Ada doesn't have a conditional expression like ? : in C though... -- Brian