From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52fd60a337c05842 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-17 12:56:14 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!bpr.best.vwh.net!bpr Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Brian Rogoff Subject: Re: ada paper critic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <3D0A399C.EF6F1BD9@acm.org> <3D0B4CCC.7010104@telepath.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:56:12 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.220.65.223 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 1024343539 192.220.65.223 (Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:52:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:52:19 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26176 Date: 2002-06-17T19:56:12+00:00 List-Id: On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Immanuel Scholz wrote: > Ted Dennison wrote: > > Immanuel Scholz wrote: > >> (Nevertheless, I think that giving the same syntax to Arrays and > >> functions is good, not bad.) > > > > We've actually had a lot of discussion here about that. Almost everyone > > who ever complains about it is an ex-C programmer who's main problem > > always boils down to "it doesn't look like C". Unsupported ad-hominem argument. I certainly wish that Ada used different bracketing for arrays, and the reason it doesn't is unfortunate. However, this is never going to change in Ada so it isn't worth spending a lot of time discussing it in the context of Ada revisions, though if you're talking about a brand new language I suppose it's fair game. Better to devote some effort to fixable flaws of Ada. Any fan of Wirth designed languages might also be tarred with the same brush used on C programmers here. > I am an (ex-)C programmer too, and most part of the time I complain about > sitting hours before large trees of code and change occourences of a[b] > into a(i) because a became a function instead of an array. ;-) That may be, but any Ada True Believer will chant that in Ada, we don't give a !@#$ for the writer of programs, we only care about the reader. Lot's of inane anti-C stuff deleted. -- Brian