From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1dd28d5040ded1f8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-16 10:55:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!bpr.best.vwh.net!bpr Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Brian Rogoff Subject: Re: Announce: Grace project site operational In-Reply-To: <3CE3D1D4.37DF5AF0@san.rr.com> Message-ID: References: <4519e058.0205140718.3ddb1b2a@posting.google.com> <3CE15D0A.3050100@mail.com> <3ce21f37$1@pull.gecm.com> <3CE2AB7E.AD4A9956@san.rr.com> <3CE2B842.7060705@mail.com> <3CE2F4E3.DABF19D7@san.rr.com> <3CE3628D.7010501@mail.com> <3CE3D1D4.37DF5AF0@san.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:55:48 +0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.220.65.223 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 1021571553 192.220.65.223 (Thu, 16 May 2002 17:52:33 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:52:33 GMT Organization: Verio Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24217 Date: 2002-05-16T17:55:48+00:00 List-Id: On Thu, 16 May 2002, Darren New wrote: > Hyman Rosen wrote: > > > > Darren New wrote: > > > I mean, basically, isn't this what the C++ compiler is doing with > > > the templates, except only creating those combinations you use? > > > > Except that templates are an integral part of the C++ language, > > while your generator is making up for a deficiency in Ada. > > Yes? So? This *is* comp.lang.ada, isn't it? Of course, but in general the Ada community is supposed to frown on the use of macros and generator is just a fancy word for macro system in this context. I think it's fair to discuss the C++ way, and perceived deficiencies of the Ada way, since one can imagine a future Ada derived language with some form of automatic instantiation. I'd certainly find such a language attractive, as one of the biggest annoyances IMO with highly generic libraries is the instantiation overhead. Of course, I'm even more biased on this topic than I was a few years ago, as my current pet language (*not* C++! :) provides a fair amount of type inference and I like it. -- Brian