From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: The Amorphous Mass Subject: Re: Unix Haters Date: 1996/04/02 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 145482203 distribution: world references: <00001a73+00002504@msn.com> <4js040INNfia@mayne.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca> x-sender: robinson@red.weeg.uiowa.edu content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1996-04-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On 2 Apr 1996, Kazimir Kylheku wrote: > Kengo Hashimoto wrote: > >Well, yes, that's the *mainstream* application of unix. But when was the > >last time something like Windows was running on PDP-10? And for > >preemptive multitasking, Linux does it much better than OS/2 Warp, > >Windows 95, or Windows NT. Last I checked, System 7X did *not* > >preemptively multitask. Now it is true that most unix systems are the > > Also, System 7X is _huge_. You have to count that ``dark matter'' of the Mac > that is hidden in its ROM. If you moved all the ROM code from the Mac into the > actual bottable OS, you would end up with a ``kernel'' that is larger than > probably any UNIX. Those Unix advocates who don't want to include the X and Motif libraries when considering the size of Unix should not consider the Toolbox ROM when considering the size of MacOS. :-) Besides, since it's in ROM you could theoretically install Unix on a Mac with full access to the Mac Toolbox (although you'd have to do a little trickery to pass the parameters correctly), so is it really part of the kernel? :-) That said, I have 7.0.2 (Max. 700K resident in RAM) and I'm getting increasingly alarmed at the bloatedness of 7.5.x, etc. Now what exactly does this have to do with C, C++, or Ada? Oh that's right. Unix and MacOS are written in C. :-) /**James Robinson*********************** "If a fatal error occurs, the program should not be allowed to continue." -- Oracle Pro*C User's Guide *************james-robinson@uiowa.edu**/