From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b3a175786beb9c7e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-10 08:58:40 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newspeer1-gui.server.ntli.net!ntli.net!newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: chris User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: SourceForge vs Savannah References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 17:04:19 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.98.236.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ntlworld.com X-Trace: newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net 1065801519 81.98.236.129 (Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:58:39 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:58:39 BST Organization: ntl Cablemodem News Service Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:611 Date: 2003-10-10T17:04:19+01:00 List-Id: Stephen Leake wrote: > chris writes: > >>I'd rather use Savannah than SF for anything. SF keep changing their >>T&C's and I've lost track of what's what on there. > > Could you expand on this? What's "T&C". Hmm - Terms & Conditions? Yeah, Terms and Conditions. (I forget what it's really called! Is it ToU (terms of use), tos (terms of service) or ...?), I have a slot on there for a really old dead project, but about every two months I get an email saying SF haved changed the conditions. About a year ago I heard sf.net where trying to benefit from others code by trying to take ownership of it in the T&C's. I don't know if it's true, but given that they keep changing the T&C's and it's hard to keep up, I've been avoiding them. > I'm considering moving my library to either SourceForge or Savannah. I > was leaning towards Savannah, but then someone pointed out that being > on SourceForge makes it easier for others to find, which is an > important point. True. Savannah is less well known than sf.net. Do a bit of research before picking one. You might get bitten by sf or savannah and be better off on your own. If you do pick one of these and have some kind of version control (CVS?) I'd be interested in how to transfer everything up there so people can access the entire history of the project (most of my code is in CVS from the beginning). >>I would be willing to submit some of my work provided I got the >>ability to work on it and extend it. I would even be willing to hand >>over my copyright, again providing I got the ability to play with it >>(also some credit) and it was some kind of group. > > That's what licensing is all about. The GPL, or the GMGPL, gives you > what you are asking for. Yes, but I think Frank was suggesting a unified distribution of things. What happens if people own different bits of something that is distributed? There are all sorts of complications arising from differences in license for various bits. A copyright owner can usually change the license, but the person who puts all the bits together cannot change the license of the separate bits to a single license. Chris