From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,325c54deb91283fd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-25 20:25:00 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:25:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:25:17 -0500 From: Wesley Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, es-mx, pt-br, fr-ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Iraq References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.117.18.109 X-Trace: sv3-4X0Xl5i9qEQfI7CnKGj4QperLstRsyAm+k8bym156uLmK1E4kV0ah0J8h7Z53f2uq5EQ3N+SsIEnZT9!lOGoabLe4Dtryyg+ar6spsn/hIUaEcSrpSLLq+GcnDzd35fZWIqBbqTU3bWskVtIUStLCwKVLJH+!LNrK0w== X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36587 Date: 2003-04-25T22:25:17-05:00 List-Id: John R. Strohm wrote: > Boeing faced EXACTLY those problems on the 777 project. In particular, the > brake controller .......: even though they had to start late, and even > though they had to train people from scratch, and even though they had to > throw away their earlier efforts, they STILL came in on schedule and under > budget. > > General Dynamics faced EXACTLY those problems with F-16C/D development, > although they were using JOVIAL J73. They had some limited experience with > JOVIAL J3B on F-16A/B, but nowhere near enough to be at critical mass. They > also had to contract out development of the JOVIAL J73 compilers: there were > none in existence at the time the project started. The naysayers had proclaimed the AN/BSY-2 project was doomed because (among other reasons) of the learning curve for Ada. Five years later, folks were pointing to Ada as the reason for the project's success