From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,6be11e765df1680d,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,6be11e765df1680d,start X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-22 17:36:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!freenix!deine.net!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!newsfeeds.bigpond.com!not-for-mail From: robin Newsgroups: comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: PL/I is a viable language Message-ID: Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:26:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.134.49.72 X-Trace: newsfeeds.bigpond.com 1045963566 144.134.49.72 (Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:26:06 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:26:06 EST Organization: Telstra BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.com) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.pl1:4429 comp.lang.ada:34451 Date: 2003-02-23T01:26:06+00:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol writes: > Hyman Rosen wrote: > > Nope. I'm just objecting to "If it broke, and it's C++, it's the > > language's fault. If it broke, and it's Ada, it's the programmer's > > fault." > > No, error are always the programmers fault. However some languages like > Ada makes it much harder to make common simple mistakes (not logical > mistakes mind you) than other languages whoes design more or less > encourage these mistakes. This leaves the programmer more time to work > on reviewing the code to find the complex mistakes. One of the nice > things with Ada is that you hardly need to use a debugger on smaller > projects (on big projects I don't know as I don't have experience with > this). But for C/C++ you sure have to use a debugger at some stage even > in small projects. Looking for the needle in the haystack takes a long > time compared to having the compiler tell you both the location of the > haystack and where the needle is/was last seen. PL/I tells you where the needle actually is. > -- > Preben Randhol ---------------- http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ -- > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent", Isaac Asimov