From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!backlog2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.brightview.co.uk!news.brightview.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:04:32 -0500 From: Jon Harrop Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.programming Followup-To: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.programming Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:14:23 +0100 References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Organization: Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Qjv22ByMOA6pv6kNgy+qaqlPAnZTFdEid/PuR0GfXTkSpxKAwU06G1RO/B1b6zXI8jHfmDYCR0CbiQ5!+stXIH2ihlcidaQgm/+coWFd6NcsWH4nR18igGdvu4PUPGxl9FLQsxzARVi8ig/4VXmS18ug2mVs!Jbh1GqE9j8ZmC7riEjoX4xGN X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.39 X-Original-Bytes: 2036 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.scheme:6129 comp.lang.ada:7386 comp.lang.functional:2493 comp.lang.c++:48437 comp.programming:12078 Date: 2009-07-29T00:14:23+01:00 List-Id: fft1976 wrote: > C++: learning curve and safety are the main problems. I'm way past the > former, and I use Visual Studio Debug mode (I develop cross-platform > code) when there is any sign of memory problems (not frequent), but > it's still not completely safe. If you're using VS then I highly recommend F# for numerical work, largely because it makes parallelism so easy. > Gambit-C Scheme (one of the best of LISPs, IMO): about 2x slower than > C (single core only), but you have to work to get within 2x (unlike > OCaml), and if you want it fast, it can't be safe (switch controlled). Bigloo? -- Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?u